Fusion Containment.

  • Potbelly
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  • greymatter
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    @Potbelly (View Post)

     If you try to contain fusion in a small area with destroyable elements, it's impossible because fusion will repeat itself and destroy anything destroyable. you can only increase the time before the container is destroyed.

  • ivel236
    7th Apr 2013 Member 0 Permalink
    Does EQVE count as destroyable? It's not but, still can be destroyed structurally.

    I was thinking of a TTAN hull to contain the pressure, then something electrically insulative inside of that to keep the TTAN from being sparked. (perhaps EQVE) Then submerge that mo'fo in liquid nitrogen to cool it.

    Or instead of EQVE do two layers of TTAN, with a buffer layer of something else imbetween. (powder or liquid to insulate sparks from second layer of TTAN)

    it can be done.
    A) contain the pressure
    B) cool it fast enough

    And I suggest you make the reaction VERY slow so it has adequate time to be cooled.
  • greymatter
    8th Apr 2013 Member 0 Permalink

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    hmm..maybe. but is it possible to "slow down" fusion? but of course, it is easy to contain it if it was a large area instead of a small box. but sometimes the fusion stops if the area is too large (the elec and neut won't be close enough to produce hygn)

  • BoredInSchool
    8th Apr 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    Well, I am currently developing plans to rework my old fusion reactor into one that is 100% destroyable by using molten TTAN as the inner wall of my containment vessel. It will also double as a way to transfer heat to make steam.

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  • fireball5000
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     try SPRK'ed INWR, it cools down to about 200c (cool enough to not melt) when it sparks

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  • therocketeer
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    @Potbelly (View Post)
    Fusion creates both heat and pressure, so any elements used would have to be indestructible (with exception of bomb). FRME would work well as an initial layer, but there are also other alternatives like HSWC. I would definitely use TTAN as an outside layer though.

    Perhaps there are more creative ways to contain the reaction, like perhaps a gravity field. And actually, in real life, some test fusion reactors use a very powerful magnetic field to contain the heat.
  • grinder
    9th Apr 2013 Member 1 Permalink

    Doable, at least for HYGN fusion. Maybe QRTZ or TTAN for containment, and a heck of a lot of cooling. QRTZ has the downside of shattering under pressure or cold, but I believe it has the highest melting point for the destroyable materials, with the added bonus that even when subjected to higher temperatures, it doesn't melt all at once and some pixels will temporarily still remain solid. Or maybe integrate CLNE into the containment, and use particle-absorbing wall to deal with the melting insides of the chamber. Also, you could have an inert gas partially filling the fusion area, to keep the really hot stuff less likely to touch meltable materials and as a temperature buffer (BOYL anyone?) 

    And, as others said, keep it slow. Maybe use powered CLNE and a temperature trigger to stop fuel delivery if things get too hot. If you can prevent the control circuit from becoming a molten pool.

    These being said, I'd truly love to see a destroyable fusion reactor, especially for NBLE and CO2. But those would truly require smart ideas.