Bombs: How Do They Work?

  • ZebraGoBoom
    23rd May 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    I want to make a nice bomb, to, you know, blow up stuff. I have questions, though.

     

    1 What is the key to making a good bomb?

    2 Which materials are best?

    3 What different kinds are there?

    4 How would i compare my bomb to other people's bombs?

    5 Which combinations do what in terms of explosives?

    6 Do the best bombs use the most obvious materials, from the Sub Menu "Explosives"?

    7 What material do i test a bomb against?

    8 What will do the most damage, the heat, explosion, or shrapnel? If so, what material on the outer edge of the bomb will help to do the most?

    9 What is BCLN, and what will it do for me in a bomb?

     

     

     

    I am going to add questions to this later.

  • therocketeer
    23rd May 2013 Member 0 Permalink
    Bang
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  • Uranium
    23rd May 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    1. The key is to put together elements that improve the reaction.

    2. It depends, if you want to make a nuclear bomb then you should use DEUT(in my opinion), I wouldn't comment on making normal bombs because they don't cause much of a blast :)

    3. Cannot understand the question.

    4. You could compare your bomb with one of those "bomb testers" just search them in-game. Or just use combination of stronger elements combined.

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    6. Just use combination of strongest destructible materials in PT universe.

  • firefreak11
    23rd May 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    @therocketeer (View Post)

     PT_BANG from the source is what makes C-4, nitro, and gunpowder explode xD

    @ZebraGoBoom (View Post)

    1)Lots of pressure and heat

    2)DEUT, THDR, LIGH, HYGN(fusion)

    3)Hmm...Fusion, fission, chemical, thunder/lightning, neutron, and vibranium/exot

    4)Try your bomb in different bomb saves

    5)try putting thdr, ligh, or dest with compressed deut for alot of pressure and neutrons, and there are ways to layer and compress hygn to fuse, and mixing of the two creates quite strong bombs.

    6)Not most of the time. Most use deut, hygn, sing, or bcln though.

    7)QRTZ is pretty good. Some people have made bomb testing shields though.

  • therocketeer
    23rd May 2013 Member 0 Permalink
    @Potbelly (View Post)
    its not spam its my very simplified explanation.
    would you like a hug?
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  • PTuniverse
    24th May 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    @ZebraGoBoom (View Post)

     1. Using the best materials so they create reactions that work together. For example, EXOT can create deadly WARP that creates ELEC, and mixes well with pressure (THDR is for areas with barely any pixels, DMG is for areas with a LOT of pixels) and a neutron explosion (with DEUT + NEUT) to create a WARP-Fusion bomb!

     

    2. The elements with special heating and or pressure feats, like LIGH.

     

    3. Fusion, WARP, Deuterium, Illegal (BOMB and DEST, is illegal in most contests and "borders" (walls, thin or thick with combinations of elements to protect against very powerful bombs) because of its ability to destroy  mostly everything in a save when spammed.), and much more. Each bomb has their own effects.

     

    4. Use popular saves for bombing (are especially huge and may contain QRTZ, which makes it a challenge to even the best of legal bombs) and compare the damage done.

     

    5. You can try experimenting with different explosive elements and see how they react.

     

    6. Most of the time, like LIGH and GBMB, but not always. Only C4 and NITR isn't gonna get you anywhere.

     

    7. You can try using METL for beginner bombs, TTAN for modern bombs or QRTZ for complex bombs.

     

    8. The explosion, of course. Without any explosion, there wouldn't be any heat or shrapnel. BVBR set off by heat can act as really powerful shrapnel, as it digs into the ground by diffusing heat into the ground and explodes as well. You can use DEUT and VIBR (or ELEC, HYGN, NBLE, any gas involved with fusion) because fusion acts as extra fuel for bombs. DEUT bombs all by itself (which was a habit in the past days) do not do much damage.

     

    9. BCLN creates an element of its CTYPE (the element parenthesized when you go debug mode by pressing D) and is a useful things for bombs as to act as a compression of elements. You do not need to use 10000 pixels of HYGN in your fusion bomb. Instead, try using 200 BCLN pixels with HYGN as CTYPE (it might as well make more than 10000 pixels). Not only that, but it also acts as shrapnel when you have it as a CTYPE of LIGH, too!

     

    Extra Tip: You don't always need NEUT to set off DEUT bombs. You can also use LIGH.

  • ZebraGoBoom
    24th May 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    Thanks Guys! Ill put more questions up once i get home.

  • greymatter
    24th May 2013 Member 0 Permalink
    @ZebraGoBoom (View Post)
    Here is my best bomber's advice ever:

    1 What is the key to making a good bomb?

    Experiment with elements and combos to find the one that makes max heat and pressure and the least possible size and within the legal limit. That is the ultimate aim of any bomb.

    2 Which materials are best?

    Don't use much things from explosives. Plut is one of the best but nowadays deut does better due to compressability and the fact that it all explodes nearly instantly instead of slowly exploding like plut,and does not produce uran as a by product. vibr is great for covering bomb made of bcln. So you can set it's life to delay it's explosion. Once the vibr explodes, the bcln gets space to make things, and the bomb goes off. Vibr is better than bray because along with a delay,it causes good destruction by itself. Fusion is another awsome feature for bombs. Hygn,nble and co2 undergoes fusion. Hygn requires the least heat and pressure to start fusion but has the weakest fusion explosion. Then comes nble,and the co2. I would use more hygn and less co2 since if the co2 doesn't undergo fusion, it can take away the strength of your bomb. Thdr is best used for pressure(take thdr over dmg anyday) and ligh is the last word of destruction. Some bunkers and walls may state ligh as illegal due to the fact that it can go right through anything,even wall. But most people including me don't consider ligh as illegal. Except for in special cases(like when used with cray.)
    Snow with ctype sing and tmp 90000 make real strong bombs, but it's most of the time illegal.Uran heats under pressure, and can make great melting power. Compressed merc at max temp just absolutly eats through materials.


    3 What different kinds are there?

    Most bombs are nukes, that is, rely on the emission of superheated particles for damage. Fusion and fission(plut and deut) bombs are classified nukes. C-4,tnt etc are for n00bs. Loads of bcln producing a only a single thing, like ligh are frowned upon, and titled n00b bombs. There are illegal bombs, that use illegal elements given at the bottom of this post.

    4 How would i compare my bomb to other people's bombs?

    Use walls or bunkers and see the amount of damage the bombs does. The one that does bigger damage is better. Some walls are made specifically for bomb testing. For a more accurate test, use bomb tester machines. I'm making one myself that offers automatic generated ratings for bombs after testing them. I'll take a few days to finish it. Meanwhile you can use oat's.

    5 Which combinations do what in terms of explosives?

    Neut or pressure sets off plut and deut. Certain thresholds of heat and pressure initiate fusion(see wiki).Most others do not require anything. I would recommend combining thdr,ligh,fusion and fission for making a really good bomb.

    The wrath of the gods is a pretty famous nuke in tpt made by me, that uses a combo of fusion,fission, thunder and lightning.

    6 Do the best bombs use the most obvious materials, from the Sub Menu "Explosives"?

    Nope.Thunder and lightning are key bomb elements. Firw is used for effects. gbmb is used for spreading and direction. Past that, that menu has nothing useful.

    7 What material do i test a bomb against?

    Gold,Tugn,ttan,qrtz are the toughest of materials. Go through few layers of them and you got a good bomb. But i recommend testing it against professional walls, as these employ a combination of various tricks and obscure properties to make a strong defence.

    That is my best wall ever. few have a bomb that can break it.

    8 What will do the most damage, the heat, explosion, or shrapnel? If so, what material on the outer edge of the bomb will help to do the most?

    The heat and pressure. Superheated shrapnel helps,but superheated particles rule. I would use vibr on the outer edge.

    9 What is BCLN, and what will it do for me in a bomb?

    it is one of the most useful bomb elements ever. It spawn elements of it's ctype. So make it spawn thdr/ligh/hygn(if there is another bcln that makes thdr) for the best use.Increase it's life to make it last longer.

    Tip:These elements are illegal for most competitions,contests,walls and bunkers.Note thattThese might change according to various users: SING,ANTM,DEST,BOMB,CONV and WARP.

    Hope i helped!