Engineering a Proton Laser

  • s4nji
    31st Oct 2013 Member 2 Permalink

    Generation, Isolation, and Switch

    There are several methods to generate the protons:

    CLNE, PCLN, CONV, and HYGN+PHOT.

     

    You can isolate the protons and leave an exit to form the laser by using either:

    VOID, PVOD, INSL, DMND, VIBR and... Walls.

     

    Since protons removes sparks, passes through and transfers temperatures, this creates a new problem: PSCN/NCSN cables to turn PSCN/E-WALL can easily be broken. This can be prevented by playing around with other elements though.

     

    Heating

    I still see many proton lasers submitted to tpt without proper/correct/effective heating method; Hint: Protons pass through nearly all elements; don't heat it as if Protons were Photons :P

     

    My method uses a tube filled vibrating REPL where the protons pass through.

    This turns out to be really effective; all outgoing photons are at 8000-9000 temperature.

     

    Other method includes the use of FILT and conventional heating ( CLNE with PLSM / Vibrating Life ), which also turns out really well.

     

    Concentrated Beam

    Now this is the challenge :O

    Using CLNE or PCLN alone can't produce that solid, perfect beam like photon lasers did :c

    I saw a proton laser in the fp using lots of separate proton tubes, then focus them with PRTN and PRTO.

     

     

    The reason why I made this topic is so that we can discuss methods, concepts, ideas, and tricks to optimize the effectiveness of the proton laser further and further.

    Please post any ideas, suggestions, or comments, to this topic :3

     

     


     

    Here's what I ended up with after hours of testing and experimenting :

    https://powdertoy.co.uk/Browse/View.html?ID=1356504

     

  • jacob1
    31st Oct 2013 Developer 0 Permalink
    cool, glad to see someone really understand PROT fully :D
    It's definitely different, and your heating method is exactly the way I intended for that to work. Reminds me of how I originally sped them up, a checkerboard grid of ACEL they passed through.

    I have noticed a lot of inability to turn things like PCLN off when cloning PROT, partly due to them removing sparks and partly because they just tend to cover everything. That's why I added the photon conversion, good to see people learning how to use that correctly too.

    Yours is the smallest proton laser I have seen so far :D not sure how possibly it is to concentrate them even more though.
  • s4nji
    31st Oct 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    Cool, the developer replied to my thread :D

    Not sure how to use LCRY with Protons to make the switch work though.

     

    Looks like HYGN+PHOT seems to be the most effective way to make concentrated proton beams from my observation.

    Check this one out :

    https://powdertoy.co.uk/Browse/View.html?ID=1357620

     

    Pierces Invicimesh like crazy compared to the Compact ones I made :O

     

    If you pause and remove the proton beam layer by layer ( by deleting using ctrl+right click ), you can see still see the protons after 20 times of deletion; that's pretty concentrated.

     

    Using HYGN+PHOT creates another problem though: NBLE and CO2 are easily created in the HYGN tube, reducing effectiveness, and sometimes, burning the whole HYGN chamber. Any ideas on how to rectify this problem? :P

  • Schneumer
    31st Oct 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    oh......so now you tell me....well conventional method still works, you just need pcln to get a thicker beam with balanced heat. How come the phot doesn't become prot in this save? (below)

     

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  • s4nji
    1st Nov 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    Somehow solved the NBLE from forming in the concentrated hydrogen tube, as well as the burning HYGN problem by separating the heating tube with the hydrogen tube by 2 pixels!

     

    Cannot open the save, many TPT features are currently broken in OSX Mavericks. Tried searching in TPT client itself but the save seems to be unpublished; cannot check :(

     

    Conventional method works, but not as effective as if the protons were photons. A simple change in the heating mechanism would increase its effectivity significantly.

  • novaplex240
    1st Nov 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    Well.. it wouldnt be a laser if it used protons :P But it would still be a particle beam wouldnt it?

  • 00yoshi
    1st Nov 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    id:1355958 pcln to create prot, the pscn and nscn are insulated. + deut for heat.

  • belugawhale
    3rd Nov 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    @00yoshi (View Post)

     Use a ~ before your id.

     

    I have a proton laser in my stamps that uses portals to combine protons together. I use insl, void, and a long track of pcln to conduct the electricity without it being cut off. I have heated both portals to max temp because for some mysterious reason, protons heat up wifi and portals.

    Edited once by belugawhale. Last: 3rd Nov 2013
  • Swordmaster
    13th Nov 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    Hey guys! I made a destructible little prot laser

    Works good too. Except for exploding. Kudos to mentioning  hygn+phot, I would never have found that out.

  • s4nji
    13th Nov 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    Uranium Heating!

    It's hotter, but trickier to isolate safely.