how to make a working computer?

  • noobymakerLOL1
    24th Aug 2019 Member 0 Permalink

    i know, i know, this is a bit too hard to start, but how can i make a working computer? and no, i dont mean the lcry bulls*** that is computers in which it just activates the lcry and you cant do much in it, i meant a fully programmable computer that has the most basic functions (e.g. print), and a programming language to code that stuff in

  • noobymakerLOL1
    25th Aug 2019 Member 0 Permalink

    bump

  • coryman
    25th Aug 2019 Member 0 Permalink

    If you want one that works without errors, the best way is to learn all the details of how FILT works. I don't know how it works personally, but I know it can be used for logic gates, which is essentially what computers are made of. Then you'll probably wanna learn about machine code and/or assembly language, which you'll use to make the computer itself.
    A thread about computers a few weeks back had these links, so I'll put them here too cause they seem useful :P
    https://powdertoy.co.uk/Wiki/W/Creating_Logic_Circuits.html
    https://powdertoy.co.uk/Wiki/W/Complete_Electronics_Tutorial.html
    As for making a programming language, that's way beyond the scope of my knowledge. But from what I've seen, you would basically need to make a ROM out of FILT, and have the computer read that and do what it says to. I believe it's been done before, so you can look for examples and try to reverse engineer them

  • noobymakerLOL1
    26th Aug 2019 Member 0 Permalink

    oh no, this is way harder than i thought, and i dont want to learn assembly because its hard, what can i do??? simply give up or make a lua script that somehow makes the hard work for me in hopes that when i share it i will get banned?

  • Sylvi
    26th Aug 2019 Moderator 1 Permalink
    @noobymakerLOL1 (View Post)
    We've clarified the the use of scripting in saves over a month ago

    Rule G6:

    Image plotting is strictly prohibited. This includes usage of scripting or any third-party tools to plot or create a save for you. Saves using CGI will be deleted and you may receive a ban. However, there is an exception which has strict guidelines:


    Sub-section 1:

    The save demonstrates the game's physics or demonstrates functionality of a save. The focus of the save should not be the result of the script. Decoration creation or modification by a script is not allowed, as this tends to be a focal point of saves for users


    Essentially, you can make the demonstration data the computer uses, but not the computer itself.
    Edited once by Lockheedmartin. Last: 26th Aug 2019
  • noobymakerLOL1
    27th Aug 2019 Member 0 Permalink

    but is it really that hard to make a computer? i never knew how to color filt without heating it up

  • kobalt
    27th Aug 2019 Member 0 Permalink

    idk, i have a thing called FINSCY and it uses some special filt, i based it off someone elses machine. its a good storage, those normal old transistors arent all that cool. but for stuff like a real proccesing thing it gets harder, i just do storage.

    Edited once by kobalt. Last: 27th Aug 2019
  • Edza
    29th Aug 2019 Member 0 Permalink

    coryman:

    If you want one that works without errors, the best way is to learn all the details of how FILT works.

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    I believe it's been done before, so you can look for examples and try to reverse engineer them

     

    It has been done with lot of saves

    https://powdertoy.co.uk/Browse/View.html?ID=385086

    but without understanding basics of how it works it cannot be reverse engineered. Also to make real copy of computer we need more elements in TPT.

  • noobymakerLOL1
    29th Aug 2019 Member 0 Permalink

    Edza:

    coryman:

    If you want one that works without errors, the best way is to learn all the details of how FILT works.

    {...}

    I believe it's been done before, so you can look for examples and try to reverse engineer them

     

    It has been done with lot of saves

    https://powdertoy.co.uk/Browse/View.html?ID=385086

    but without understanding basics of how it works it cannot be reverse engineered. Also to make real copy of computer we need more elements in TPT.

     nope, no need for more elements, you can make it with existing elements and even though computers in tpt are limited, i think they can run dos on them

  • Sylvi
    29th Aug 2019 Moderator 0 Permalink
    @noobymakerLOL1 (View Post)
    Are you having any issues with the topic? Everyone here is trying help the best they can
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